BUFFALO LUMBER

Finding the Right wood is a love affair... Getting the Wrong wood is a nightmare!
 
You will Look at it every Day
Regret or REJOICE - it's your CHOICE!




Buffalo Lumber Company, Inc., Lumber - Retail, Woodbury, TN

A+  BBB Rating


Log Siding

Western Red Cedar Log Cabin Siding pre-stained SMOOTH Western Red Cedar Log Siding - PreStained
HEWN pine log siding HEWN Pine Log Siding - 2 Coat Factory Finish

Log Siding Prices

Full log look for Quarter log price!


 

Quarter Log Cabin Siding is the perfect fit for your cabin or country home. 2x8" Quarter Log siding allows you to integrate the rustic charm of a log home with conventional frame construction. It looks exactly like log but requires 75% less wood. Our Log Siding is custom milled and finished to your project specifications delivered mill direct to your door!
 
Log siding offers many other advantages over real log besides just price. Ease of installation is one. Many of our Log customers install the siding themselves saving the cost of custom professional installation. As I tell all my DIY customers “if you do this for a couple hours you will be an expert”.
 
Another savings is the cost and labor of "chinking" full logs. When you apply chink you are sealing any gaps between logs that allow air, moisture or critters to flow through. Our quarter log siding overlaps the next board forming a tight seal.


Field & Stream in North Carolina: 2x10 HEM-FIR LOG SIDING with REVEAL - Chinking
Field & Stream in North Carolina: 2x10 HEM-FIR LOG SIDING with REVEAL - Chinking applied on job site


If you select the log siding profile that includes a channel between the log rounds referred to as the "reveal" you can apply chinking in that groove to get a great design effect like our customer in Atlanta did - but that is a design decision only.
 
Another huge advantage of quarter log siding is the ability to pre-finish at the mill sealing all sides except end cuts. All wood needs to be protected from the elements in order to perform and continue to look beautiful. The nice thing about log siding is that we can factory finish - stain or prime it - BEFORE you get it. This saves even more time and money on jobsite especially for the Do it yourself owner.

Factory Stained Log Siding
Protect your investment and do the job RIGHT!


Western Red Cedar Log Siding STK NH Log Siding Home
New Hampshire Log Siding Home
2x8 CEDAR LOG SIDING NO REVEAL STK PreStained "Rustic" Semi-Trans Oil Based


The value of factory finished log siding vs. the risk and cost of problems in the field after installation. The worst thing you can possibly do is to slap your log siding up and then just stain the face after installation. This is an invitation to water and rot problems down the road even with cedar.
 
The risk is not worth the savings! ROT IS INSIDIOUS. If water gets behind your log siding and causes rot the problems can be epic. It can go both ways rotting your house wrap and getting into the studs behind the walls causing entire wall sections that need to be cut out and replaced. All of this occurs out of sight- you will have no way of knowing there is a rot problem until it is too late. Everyone who has ever called us with problems in the field has realized that their wood was not properly sealed on the backside.
 
The answer is to seal your log siding on all 6 sides prior to installation (front, back, side, side, end, end). This is where the real value of the FACTORY FINISH PROCESS comes in. Our machines can seal the face, back and side edges leaving only the butt ends to the installer on the jobsite for a fully sealed board.

Rustic QTR Log Cabin Siding
Delivered Mill Direct To You!

Here's your opportunity to create an Authentic Log Cabin Look at a fraction of the price of actual log homes. The economy has forced many would be log home lovers to contemplate other means of achieving their dreams on a budget they can afford. Create the “feel” of traditional log homes inside and out.

Western Red Cedar Log Paneling Pre-Primed Then Painted on site Home in New York
Home in New York - 2x10" Western Red Cedar Log Paneling Pre-Primed a dark brown then Painted on site


 

Cedar Log Siding


If you want the best chance at long term success
Cedar is the only way to go!

There is no margin for error if you select a lesser species due to upfront costs. It can work but you have to be diligent about your maintenance and upkeep. If you don’t keep up your maintenance lesser species will IMMEDIATELY EXPERIENCE PROBLEMS.
 
It can rot, curl off the wall, bend out of shape and generally begins to look terrible very quickly. The risk of a major failure is much greater because the species carries no natural resistance to moisture and insects.
 
Cedar on the other hand gives you SOME margin for error. It holds up better, experiences less changes in size and just works. It has been tried and true for many years. People in extreme climates with large changes in temperature and moisture over the course of a year should use cedar log siding.
 
Once your cedar log siding is installed we advise keeping up on your maintenance but if you are on the fence one year and let it go- the worst that usually happens is it will turn grey or darken. You will need more elbow grease when you get to it but the risks of any kind of large scale failure (provided you properly prepared and installed it) are minimal.

 2x8 Cedar Log Siding No Reveal Trimmed 2x4 & 2x8s 2x8 Cedar Log Siding No Reveal Trimmed 2x4 & 2x8s
Cedar Log Siding w/Reveal factory pre-stained CedarTone Cedar Log Siding w/Reveal pre-stained "Cedar Tone"

Cedar Log Siding Prices


QTR Log Siding is milled from 2x8" cedar board stock into a log pattern. The lap pattern ensure tight insulation against weather and eliminates the need for chinking (sealant) between the logs. Our cedar log siding can be milled to show a "reveal" between the rounds when installed. Applying chinking to the "Log Siding with Reveal" (with chink) pattern achieves that truly rustic log cabin look.


CEDAR LOG SIDING PRICING BY SQUARE FOOT
Understanding our Prices:


We price log siding by the square foot. Our Price is meant to include an idea of delivery if you order at least 1500 square feet. The finish price includes your log siding plus one coat factory stained or primed. That means wood and finish for that price delivered.
 
If you know your square footage you can multiply it by the price below and have an idea what this product will cost you. If your square footage is below 1500sq expect to put some delivery on it.


Pricing below INCLUDES Delivery
if ordering at LEAST 1500 SQFT
$2500 ORDER MINIMUM



Western Red Cedar (WRC) Select Tight Knot STK Partially Air-Dried PAD
Check your SQFT to LFT coverage


2x6 TRIM BOARD $2.59 - 2.79 PER VERTICAL FOOT
SMOOTH LOG CORNERS $200 PER VERTICAL FOOT


 

FACTORY FINISH = PEACE OF MIND
How Much is Your Peace of Mind Worth?


YOU HAVE TO BACK SEAL! IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THE JOB RIGHT YOU CANNOT FINISH BETTER THAN MACHINES CAN!!


Add 25¢ per SQFT for ECO-FRIENDLY OIL BASED STAIN
(Rough Face Only - not available at all mill locations)


Buffalo Lumber offers a comprehensive system to do log siding the right way and it starts with factory finish.
 
The biggest and most frequent mistake we see people make is thinking they can just tack siding up and stain the face to save money. This is the Worst Thing you can Possibly do with Wood Siding!
 
The problem is water. Water gets behind the wood and causes problems. By the time you realize there is a problem the cost to repair it is in the thousands or tens of thousands.
 
99% of all reported siding failures are installation related. That puts a pretty big onus on preparation. Doing the job exactly the right way is worth its weight in gold when you consider that anything that goes wrong costs multiple thousands of dollars to address.
 
8 hours a day, 5 days a week we get calls about wood siding and the number 1 reported reason we get called is the wood siding on the house now is failing because it was not sealed on the back.
 
The average cost for one of our customers to repair log siding is well over $5000. We have a $2500 order minimum + they have labor.
 
Life teaches 1 rule: It costs 10 TIMES MORE to fix something that goes wrong than it would to do the job the exact right way in the first place.
 
Why put your building and your wallet at risk?
 
Be Certain - factory finish!



Pricing based on 1500 SQFT order
Delivered FREE to most places in the USA!
$2500 ORDER MINIMUM



 

Cedar Log Siding Grades and Seasoning


MILL SELECT : STK (Select Tight Knot) cedar log siding has been visually inspected at the mill for an appearance grade that allows proportional distribution of knots, burls and naturally occurring markings which add to the decorative character of the piece. Sound, live, small to medium tight knots permitted every 6 - 8 inches. MILL SELECT is usually SEASONED - KILN Dried (KD) or AIR Dried (AD) - to 14% moisture content.
 
SEASONING referes to how lumber has been dried to reduce moisture content before it is milled to pattern. Some grades of cedar are milled green (unseasoned), some are air-dried or kiln-dried to meet specifications when required. Kiln drying speeds up wood seasoning in closed chambers by heating and controlling air circulation. Kiln Dried log siding has 14% maximum moisture content.
 
Partially Air Dried (PAD) means the siding has been air dried on stickers for a short period after being milled. PAD cedar is still considered green and moisture content is 20% or higher.

Cedar Log Siding Milled and Partially Air Dried IN: Milling of Cedar Log Siding Partially Air Dried
Freshly milled 2x8 Cedar Log Siding OUT: Freshly milled 2x8" Cedar Log Siding

The fact is that all wood no matter how it is dried (seasoned) will expand and contract during the year due to moisture changes in the air. The thing about PAD green woods is that they are prone to changes of greater degree than fully air dried or kiln dried lumber. This means you must use patterns like shiplap, channel rustic or QTR Log Siding that allow more room for wood expansion and contraction in their design - patterns that allow movement without compromising the overall appearance.
 
During the milling of green logs there will be some blown knots but our mills are saying less than 10% board loss. Milled Green PAD (partially air dried) is a cedar grade that is designed to ease the high cost of cedar. Get out your saw and cut around that knot hole and save a buck or two. If you can afford a flaw or two to save a buck or two this is the grade for you.
 
A more detailed write-up of Cedar Grades and Seasoning can be found on our Western Red Cedar Siding page STK, STD&BTR NPS Cedar Grades and KD and Partially Air Dried (PAD) Cedar.
 
Have you considered Cedar DUTCH LAP Siding as an alternative to Log Siding? Dutch Lap siding (also called Cove Lap and German Lap) is a 1x Cedar siding pattern with a rustic look - similar to 2x cedar log siding - for a better price !

STK Mill Select Red Cedar Siding

STK Mill Select Red Cedar Siding

Red Cedar T&G paneling

Red Cedar Log Siding - As interior paneling


 

PINE, FIR, SPF Log Cabin Siding

We understand dreams and making a dream come true within a tight budget. But there is no margin for error if you select species with no natural resistance to moisture and insects. It can work but you have to be diligent about your installation, maintenance and upkeep.
 
If you don’t back seal, if you don't seal end cuts, if you do not follow rigorous air-flow and water run-off guidelines before during installation you will IMMEDIATELY EXPERIENCE PROBLEMS. If you install everything right but do NOT keep up your maintenance you will IMMEDIATELY EXPERIENCE PROBLEMS.
 
Our mills strive to find the best softwood log species in your area to meet grading requirements. The specific wood species can vary by season and availability but all will have very similar grain, knot, color appearance and performance attributes.

Rustic Log Cabin Siding- Delivered Mill Direct To You!


2x8 Hem Fir Log Siding STK Virginia Home
West Virginia Log Siding Home
2x8 HEM-FIR LOG SIDING NO REVEAL STK - PreStained Olympic "CARAMEL" Semi-trans Oil-based


Log siding is a great way to achieve the look of harmony with nature you want and save thousands of dollars in the process. Log siding on a stick built (traditional framing) home will cost you 30 to 50% less than actual log construction.
 
We have had many customers opt for stick built structures and use pine log siding and pine paneling to achieve the rustic look and save some dough. One guy even used metal framing and saved a bunch. He has 7,412 SQFT Heated + 4592 SQFT Covered Porch = 12,004 SQFT under roof. He did the whole building for a total cost of $267,744. His story is here Home Owner - PINE LOG SIDING

Pine log sided cabin in TN Pine log cabin siding prestained - NO Reveal
Hem Fir Log Siding with Reveal - factory stained 2x8" Hem Fir Log Siding with Reveal - factory stained

Pine, Hem-Fir, SPF Log Siding Prices


QTR Log Siding is milled from 2x8" ponderosa pine, lodgepole pine or Hem-Fir board stock into a log pattern. The lap pattern ensure tight insulation against weather and eliminates the need for chinking (sealant) between the logs. Our log siding can be milled to show a "reveal" between the rounds when installed. Applying chinking to the "Log Siding with Reveal" (with chink) pattern achieves that truly rustic log cabin look.
 
* Our mills strive to find the best softwood log species in your area to meet grading requirements. The specific wood species can vary by season and availability but all will have very similar grain, knot, color appearance and performance attributes.


PINE LOG SIDING PRICING By SQUARE FOOT
Understanding our Prices:


We price log siding by the square foot. Our Price is meant to include an idea of delivery if you order at least 1500 square feet. The finish price includes your log siding plus one coat factory stained or primed. That means wood and finish for that price delivered.
 
If you know your square footage you can multiply it by the price below and have an idea what this product will cost you. If your square footage is below 1500sq expect to put some delivery on it.


Pricing below INCLUDES Delivery
if ordering at LEAST 1500 SQFT
$2500 ORDER MINIMUM



MILL SELECT #2 GRADE KILN DRIED
PONDEROSA PINE, LODGEPOLE PINE, HEM-FIR, SPF
Check your SQFT to LFT coverage


2x6 TRIM BOARD $1.89 PER VERTICAL FOOT
SMOOTH LOG CORNERS $120 PER VERTICAL FOOT
Compare Cabin & Corner Prices!


FACTORY FINISH = PEACE OF MIND
How Much is Your Peace of Mind Worth?

Add 25¢ per SQFT for ECO-FRIENDLY OIL BASED STAIN
(Rough Face Only - not available at all mill locations)


Buffalo Lumber offers a comprehensive system to do cedar wood siding the right way and it starts with factory finish.
 
The biggest and most frequent mistake we see people make is thinking they can just tack cedar siding up and stain the face to save money. This is the Worst Thing you can Possibly do with Wood Siding!
 
The problem is water. Water gets behind the wood and causes problems. By the time you realize there is a problem the cost to repair it is in the thousands or tens of thousands.
 
99% of all reported siding failures are installation related. That puts a pretty big onus on preparation. Doing the job exactly the right way is worth its weight in gold when you consider that anything that goes wrong costs multiple thousands of dollars to address.
 
8 hours a day, 5 days a week we get calls about wood siding and the number 1 reported reason we get called is the wood siding on the house now is failing because it was not sealed on the back.
 
The average cost for one of our customers to repair cedar siding is well over $5000. We have a $2500 order minimum + they have labor.
 
Life teaches 1 rule: It costs 10 TIMES MORE to fix something that goes wrong than it would to do the job the exact right way in the first place.
 
Why put your building and your wallet at risk?
 
Be Certain - factory finish!



Pricing based on 1500 SQFT order
Delivered FREE to most places in the USA!
$2500 ORDER MINIMUM



 

2x8 PINE LOG PANELING STK #2 GRADE KD UV Stain Fruitwood
Man Cave in Virginia - Smooth 2x8 Pine Log Paneling - Stained "Fruitwood" with Ultra Violet Finish



In the Field or In the Factory?

The VALUE of Factory Finish

The first thing that wood experts like the Western Red Cedar Lumber Association will tell you is that all wood siding - even cedar log siding - needs to be sealed on all six sides prior to installation and then re coated as needed on the face for the lifetime of the wood.
 
FINISH SIDING PRIOR TO INSTALLATION
"Before installation (job site), applying a finish to all surfaces (including ends) is recommended. Factory applied finishes are best. They ensure the best performance of the finish. The type of coating will be determined by final finish and look selected. The finish protects the wood from moisture absorption and UV degradation, helps prevent staining caused by mildew and extractives and will increase the service life of top coats." from WRCLA How to Install Western Red Cedar Siding


Connecticut Lodge 2x8 HEM FIR QTR LOG STK MILL SELECT with reveal Pre-finished Olympic Carmel 2x8 Trim Hunter Green
Connecticut Lodge 2x8" HEM FIR QTR LOG STK "MILL SELECT" with reveal
Siding Pre-finished Olympic "Carmel" 2x8 Trim "Hunter Green"


We interviewed Brandon Stendal- owner of Stone Valley Painting, LLC. and a customer of ours and asked-
 
"What is the value of factory finish?"

"Usually we are only finishing the face of the building. For us- a commercial painter- to prime coat 6 sides in the field takes about twice as long as coating the face alone after installation. We charge $50hour commercially so the price immediately doubles.
 
We primed all 4 sides of about 833 sqft of your wood siding and it took 2 guys about 8 hours to do this job. It took 5 gallons of primer to coat it (between $25 and $30 per gallon) and we had to rack it at our own warehouse and then transport to the jobsite.
 
I would actually prefer my customers to get a factory finished primer coat and then have me do the final coat in the field- that is the best wood siding performance option.
 
That may not sound like it is good for business but long term, happy customers are my business!"

We agree completely.

Factory Pre-Finish Process


Factory finishing coats 4 of six sides - You get the face, the back and both side edges, the butt ends need to be sealed when installed on the jobsite.
 
If you are going to do the job right- you can't do it better (or cheaper) than the machines. If you are planning to stain instead of paint- the number of gallons needed per square foot virtually doubles. You do not have to apply a final coat to the face after installation but you had better have a large, well ventilated area with racks for the wood siding to dry - usually 3-7 days depending on humidity and finish choice.
 
The fact is that sealing the wood on all six sides prior to installation is the single most important thing you can do to ensure the long term performance of your wood siding- factory finishing saves the headache factor (literally) and is the first step to doing the job right.
 
The truth may not be what you "want" to hear but remember if it's worthwhile to do:
 
It costs 3 times as much and takes 3 times as long as you originally thought it would.
 
It costs 10 times as much to fix a screw up as to do things right in the first place!

The Question Is - Can You afford Not to Factory Finish?



HEWN Log Cabin Siding


New York Log Cabin 2x8 HEWN PINE LOG SIDING NO REVEAL STK PreStained 2 coats of Cabot's Semi Transparent Acrylic Sequoia
New York Log Cabin 2x8 HEWN PINE LOG SIDING NO REVEAL STK
PreStained 2 coats of Cabot's Semi Transparent Acrylic "Sequoia" mixed at 1/2 opacity



HEWN LOG CABIN SIDING

A SCRIBED Log Cabin look for
A HEWN Log Siding price you can afford!


Why Custom Hewn Log SIDING over FULL log? That's easy- it makes DOLLARS and SENSE! Custom milled HEWN log gives that distinct Hand-Scribed Log look and more importantly the log FEELING many log home lovers are looking for. In today's economy people are FORCED to look for ways to achieve their dreams on an ever tightening budget.
 
Hewn Log Siding on a stick built house will cost about ½ what a traditional log home would cost (even less if you are creative) but you can LOVE IT! LIVE in IT! and ACHIEVE your dream look on ½ the budget with Hewn Log Siding.



HEWN LOG SIDING PRICING BY SQUARE FOOT
Understanding our Prices:


We price log siding by the square foot. Our Price is meant to include an idea of delivery if you order at least 1500 square feet. The finish price includes your log siding plus one coat factory stained or primed. That means wood and finish for that price delivered.
 
If you know your square footage you can multiply it by the price below and have an idea what this product will cost you. If your square footage is below 1500sq expect to put some delivery on it.


Pricing below INCLUDES Delivery
if ordering at LEAST 1500 SQFT
$2500 ORDER MINIMUM


HEWN SURFACE SQFT 2 COAT
FINISH
1500 SQFT
Delivered
2x8" QTR HEWN LOG - NO REVEAL (chinkless) 1500 $6.79  $10,185

LODGEPOLE PINE, MILL SELECT #2 GRADE KILN DRIED
Check your SQFT to LFT coverage


2x6 HEWN TRIM $4 PER VERTICAL FOOT
HEWN LOG CORNERS $144 PER VERTICAL FOOT
Compare Cabin & Corner Prices!


 

PEACE OF MIND - 2 COAT FINISH
How Much is Your Peace of Mind Worth?

Add 25¢ per SQFT for ECO-FRIENDLY OIL BASED STAIN
(Rough Face Only - not available at all mill locations)


Buffalo Lumber offers a comprehensive system to do cedar wood siding the right way and it starts with factory finish.
 
The biggest and most frequent mistake we see people make is thinking they can just tack cedar siding up and stain the face to save money. This is the Worst Thing you can Possibly do with Wood Siding!
 
The problem is water. Water gets behind the wood and causes problems. By the time you realize there is a problem the cost to repair it is in the thousands or tens of thousands.
 
99% of all reported siding failures are installation related. That puts a pretty big onus on preparation. Doing the job exactly the right way is worth its weight in gold when you consider that anything that goes wrong costs multiple thousands of dollars to address.
 
8 hours a day, 5 days a week we get calls about wood siding and the number 1 reported reason we get called is the wood siding on the house now is failing because it was not sealed on the back.
 
The average cost for one of our customers to repair cedar siding is well over $5000. We have a $2500 order minimum + they have labor.
 
Life teaches 1 rule: It costs 10 TIMES MORE to fix something that goes wrong than it would to do the job the exact right way in the first place.
 
Why put your building and your wallet at risk?
 
Be Certain - factory finish!



Pricing based on 1500 SQFT order
Delivered FREE to most places in the USA!
$2500 ORDER MINIMUM



 

LOG CORNERS


Most of our customers finish out their log siding with 2x6" or 2x8" Trim boards. Its inexpensive, easy to install and looks great.


2x6 boards are a simple log siding corner option 2x6" boards are a simple log siding corner option
2x8 log siding Easy log cabin siding trim option Easy log cabin siding trim option

 

LOG CORNER SYSTEM


On the other hand we have the AWESOME log tail corner system developed by Lance Clymer at Timberline Log Exteriors. These corners are the most real looking corner system available. Lance makes them for us on special order basis. He has created a video on how to install them and they really are awesome.
 
The 8" Round Log Corners mimic the look of "Swedish Cope" and "Saddle Notch" Full Logs profiles. They are notched on the bottom and extend beyond the wall approximately 1 foot.
 
These log corners are actually a "system" of separate pieces that are assembled on the job site. It takes 4 unique pieces to make one vertical linear foot of 8" round log corner.


Timberline Patented Log Corner System - model
Timberline Patented Log Corner System - diagram

 

The problem is that along with being really awesome they are really freaking expensive. We want you to know what they cost up front here on the site so we don’t have to break as many hearts when we quote you on the phone. Some people just have to have them and some find they don’t need them as much once they know what the cost really is.
 
Plan on $120 per vertical foot for PINE LOG and $200 for CEDAR LOG. Add about $20 per foot for HEWN surfacing. Its expensive because it takes about 4 pieces per vertical foot to run on both left and right sides of the corner. On average each of these pieces go for about $30 to $50 (cedar).


HEWN Pine Log Siding 2x8 Factory Finished HEWN Pine Log Siding 2x8" Factory Finished
HEWN LOG CORNER SYSTEM HEWN Full Round Corner Log Siding System

To put this into perspective if you had 4- 10 foot high corners you would be looking at between $4800 (pine) to $8000 (cedar) to do the job. It usually works out to be around ½ of what your log siding will cost. So it adds quite a bit of cost but also adds quite a bit of character. There is nothing else like them.
 
Timberline has simplified the design lately which you can check out on Lance's new log corner installation video. This video also includes important tips about installing the quarter log siding so even if you do not spring for the fancy corners its a good DIY source.


 

 

 

FACTORY FINISH = PEACE OF MIND

HEWN Log Siding PRE Finished and Ready to Install!

Recently we had a customer who ordered some Hewn Pine Log Siding from us finished at the factory. Those of you who are familiar with our "peace of mind pine" interior products know that the peace of mind comes from the dedication of the finisher himself, Rick Wood of Woodco Prefinishing.
 
Rick is quite simply the best finisher on the planet in our opinion. All he does is finish wood and nothing goes out of that shop without his stamp of approval. Rick is the only finisher we use that has a 100% happy customer record.
 
When we sent our hewn log to Rick for this customer we ordered a 1 coat exterior application of Cabot's Translucent Acrylic to be applied prior to shipping. Rick was not happy with the 1 coat result so he added an extra coat (free of charge) on that one order. The result is a beautiful product that will be protected for years to come.
 
He then called us to explain that hewn log because of the uneven surface should always have 2 coats applied in order to look right and perform the way it should. He did the extra coat free of charge on the first job but would have to charge on all subsequent jobs.


HEWN Log Siding - surface finish


You see long term beauty and performance is an investment of time and money and we are firm believers in investing into peace of mind up front rather than investing in Murphy's Law later on.
 
Allow me to explain. We get customers all the time who say "we can get that down the road for ½ the price of what you are charging for finished hewn pine". What they are not factoring is the COST and TIME of finishing the job in the field or more aptly put - the cost of field finishing your log siding THE RIGHT WAY!
 
The RIGHT WAY is to apply finish to all 6 sides of the wood prior to installation in order to protect it from moisture damage. As you can imagine applying stain to 6 sides of a stick of wood in the field is a time consuming (and money consuming) process. It is usually done by the installers (who are not trained finishers) and it is a big job.
 
Imagine you are an installer at a job site with 2000sq feet of hewn log siding that has not been finished and you have to finish all 6 sides before installation.
 
Rough estimates of 2x8 or 3x8 log siding require about 3600 lineal feet to cover 2000 square feet of space. To put this into perspective in order to stain both sides you are going to be finishing 1.4 miles of wood. You will need a place to store 1.4 miles of wood and you will need to dry 1.4 miles of wood without dirt or bugs or anything getting into the finish during this process.
 
Chances are you are not going to have the proper equipment (or space) to do the job right and if you try the expenses are going to mount up. So you have a meeting with the homeowner and decide the best way to handle this is to install the wood with no finish and then finish the face after installation in order to save money.
 
Many homeowners feel that risk is worth the savings however we disagree. The risk is that water will get trapped behind the wood at some point during the home's lifespan. When this happens the pine WILL ROT. There are no exceptions to this rule- if water stands on pine it will rot. The reason every piece of literature on the subject says to finish all six sides prior to installation is that pine is extremely susceptible to rot.
 
If rot begins to occur on the back side of your siding you will have no way of knowing until it is too late. Too late being when the rot shows up on the face of the wood. Rot is contagious- if it shows up on the face of the wood chances are it has gone the other way as well.

UV damage to siding is a result of Finish erosion UV damage to siding result of water eroding the finish
Rot on back of siding caused by water & moisture Rot on back of siding caused by moisture buildup

 

We have documented cases of pine siding that has begun to rot and has taken out the walls behind it as well as the siding in front. In those cases the entire wall has to be replaced not just the siding itself. The cost of fixing such problems in the field run into the tens of thousands of dollars.
 
Some of you will be thinking "well that is a worst case scenario" and you would be right however think about it for a minute. In your lifetime how many people have actually taken the time to do a job exactly right? If you have the same experience as we do you will realize that most people (including installers) take shortcuts. Shortcuts cause worst case scenarios to occur.
 
Sitting in my chair I have spoken to people directly who have had improper installation techniques cost 10 times more to fix than if they had used proper methods in the first place. The number one cause of problems in the field? Water damage- the number one cause of water damage in the field? Improper field finishing and installation.
 
If you think I am trying to scare the living daylights out of you, you are exactly right. I am trying to scare you into making sure things are done exactly right.
 
Back to Rick. Rick Wood has been finishing wood products for many years and he knows how to do the job right. He has machines and racks set up to dry miles and miles of wood and he has taken it upon himself that his good name goes out with every order. If Rick says you need 2 coats of finish on hewn log you better believe him.
 
It is not just your peace of mind we are talking about but ours as well. The last thing in the world we need is a problem in the field which is why we do not offer the hewn pine unfinished at all. We feel the risk is too great for our customers.
 
If we are more expensive than the guys down the road it is because doing a job exactly right usually costs more up front than the cheapest option. Rick Wood does the job exactly right every time!
 
The rule to remember is that fixing something done wrong costs 10 times more than doing it right in the first place.
 
The choice is where and when you invest into the value of long term happiness and performance. At the end of the day how much is your peace of mind really worth?
 
CB
 
Chris Buffalo of Buffalo Lumber Company has consulted on over 20,000 wood projects, bid over 10,000, sold over 2,000 and visited over 200 jobsites nationwide. His credentials are "Been there done that thousands of times".
 
It's not Bull it's Buffalo ;-)


One Log Siding Cabin - 4 Different Styles - 4 Prices!


Log Siding Home - corners, windows and doors trimmed out with 2x6 Board
2x8" SMOOTH Log Siding Home - all corners, windows and doors trimmed out with 2x6" Board


Above is Nate’s log cabin. He used 2x4 trim on all of his windows and doors and 2x6 for his corners and it looks great! This is the cheapest and easiest way to trim out a log home. It still looks "loggy" and saves THOUSANDS on fancy surface milling and corner trim.
 
This is off his back porch where he did a vaulted roof. I don’t think anyone would doubt the log cabin feel of this home.

2x8 HEM-FIR Log Siding 2x Trim 2x8" HEM-FIR Log Cabin with 2x Trim
example of 2x6 Flat window trim on log siding example 2x6" Flat window trim on log siding

Below is Chad's log cabin. He used 2x8" HEWN Log Siding and HEWN Log Corners. The log corners mimic the look of "Swedish Cope" FULL LOG profile. Each vertical foot is actually 4 separate log pieces specially cut to assemble on the job site.
 
It looks amazing, cost a lot MORE than Nates BUT way less than the FULL 8" HEWN LOG cost that he had researched.


HEWN Log Siding Home - 65 vertical feet of HEWN Log Corner system
2x8 HEWN Log Siding Home - 65 vertical feet of HEWN Log Corner system, windows and doors trimmed with 2x" board


Where does your log cabin budget fall?

To help you figure out how style can affect your budget here are 4 Log Siding & Trim Options:

(1) SMOOTH LOG + 2x BOARD TRIM (windows, doors and corners)
(2) SMOOTH LOG + 2x BOARD TRIM (windows, doors) + LOG CORNERS
(3) HEWN LOG + 2x HEWN BOARD TRIM (windows, doors and corners)
(4) HEWN LOG + 2x HEWN BOARD TRIM (windows, doors) + HEWN LOG CORNERS

 
To illustrate the pricing differences in our options we selected a Classic single story Log Cabin structure 80 long and 20 wide - 4 walls with 4 corners 10' vertical. It needs 2000 square feet to cover in log siding and 600 lineal feet in trim for doors, windows and 40 vertical feet of corners.

classic and simple log siding home sketch
This classic log cabin image above courtesy of Tomahawk Log and can be found at
Tomahawklog - The Clearwater Design pdf


Then we priced the 4 options - all factory finished and delivered: 2000 square feet log siding, 600 lineal feet in doors, windows and corner trim - all HEM-FIR SELECT TIGHT KNOT (STK) lumber so you are comparing cost of style differences only:

    (1) $11,114 - SMOOTH LOG + 2x BOARD TRIM
    (2) $15,837 - SMOOTH LOG + 2x BOARD TRIM + LOG CORNERS
    (3) $15,974 - HEWN LOG + 2x HEWN BOARD TRIM
    (4) $21,573 - HEWN LOG + 2x HEWN BOARD TRIM + HEWN LOG CORNERS


Here is how the 4 Log Siding Quote Options break out by item price:


(1) SMOOTH LOG + 2x TRIM                           FEET PRE-FINISHED $11,114.60
2x8" SMOOTH QTR LOG SIDING 2000 SQFT $4.99 $9,980.00
2x6" TRIM WINDOWS+DOORS 560 LFT $1.89 $1,058.00
2x6" TRIM CORNERS 40 LFT $1.89 $75.60

(2) SMOOTH LOG + 2x TRIM + LOG CORNERS FEET PRE-FINISHED $15,837.40
2x8" SMOOTH QTR LOG SIDING 2000 SQFT $4.99 $9,980.00
2x6" TRIM WINDOWS+DOORS 560 LFT $1.89 $1,058.00
8" LOG CORNERS 40 LFT$119.96 $4,798.40

(3) HEWN LOG + 2x HEWN TRIM                     FEET PRE-FINISHED $15,974.00
2x8" HEWN QTR LOG SIDING 2000 SQFT $6.79 $13,580.00
2x6" HEWN TRIM WINDOWS+DOORS 560 LFT $3.99 $2,234.40
2x6" HEWN TRIM CORNERS 40 LFT $3.99 $159.60

(4) HEWN LOG + 2x TRIM + LOG CORNERS     FEET PRE-FINISHED $21,572.80
2x8" HEWN QTR LOG SIDING 2000 SQFT $6.79 $13,580.00
2x6" HEWN TRIM WINDOWS+DOORS 560 LFT $3.99 $2,234.40
8" HEWN LOG CORNERS 40 LFT $143.96 $5,758.40

April 2016 pricing includes siding and trim all factory pre-stained or primed
delivered to job site - but not installed!



 

Where does your log cabin budget fall in this price picture?


It pretty clear the price jumps when you choose Log Corners instead of 2x6" Board Trim and jumps again when you choose HEWN Log surfacing over SMOOTH Log. If you want to price the same options in cedar plan on paying 1/3 more across the board.
 
Compare this 2000 SQFT 4 corner cabin to your log cabin design and size - smaller? bigger? more corners? Price it out and see if Buffalo Lumber can deliver for you!


Good luck on your dream.
We hope this has helped you plan your next move!



 
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2x8" QTR LOG Siding with Reveal (with Chink) usually 3/4" (F)


Log Siding Coverage


The measurements below are for estimating only. They are based on industry pattern standards* BUT can and WILL vary from mill to mill. Note that width and exposure are the same for NO REVEAL and With REVEAL log profiles (image below). The Reveal (F) between log rounds is usually 3/4".
 
Be sure to confirm these dimensions with the mill before you order!


QTR Log Cabin Siding

Nominal WidthA: Dressed WidthB: Exposed FaceOverLapLinear FT Factor*
6"5   3/8"4 7/8"1/2"2.46
8"7  1/16"6 1/2"1/2"1.85
10"9  1/16"8 1/2"3/4"1.41
12"11"10 1/2"3/4"1.14

The amount of Exposed Face (SQFT exposure) is determined by subtracting the pattern OVERLAP from the the actual "dressed width" which is the true width of the board measured across. The overlap will usually be 1/2" to 3/4" depending on selected width; 6", 8", 10", 12".
 
Log home siding is often sold by the linear (or lineal) foot LFT. Our Linear Foot Factor* is derived by dividing 12” by the exposed face. Your LFT volume is calculated by multiplying your SQUARE FOOT area by the LFT factor:


A) Calculate the square footage in walls: length x height = SQFT area
B) Calculate, and then subtract, the square footage of openings
C) Add 10% to cover trim and waste
D) Multiply the result by the factor for lineal feet
 
For example: If you are siding 10 walls 8 feet high by 40 feet long with 2x8" Cedar Log Siding and we allow 10% of the total square feet for openings, you would need approximately 5800-5900 linear feet:
 
10 * 8 * 40 = 3200 SQ FT - 320 (10% openings) + 288 (10% trim/waste)
= 3168 SQ FT * 1.85 linear factor = 5861 LFT


*WARNING!   Although there are wood siding industry standards like WWPA, WCLIB, WRCLA, CRA, NELMA - the actual thickness, width, pattern overlap and exposed face can vary from mill to mill. This variation can significantly impact the actual LFT VOLUME of wood you need to buy to cover YOUR specific SQFT area. Be sure to confirm the DRESSED pattern measurements with the mill BEFORE you buy. Running a hundred SQFT short can cost $$$$ if custom milling and shipping are involved.
 
When we quote your log siding SQFT we will use the dimensions specific to the mill producing YOUR order. You will see those specifications on the confirmed quote BEFORE you commit to the order. There are NO hidden gotchas!



 

 

HEWN LOG Siding - SQUARE Profile - Special Order
2x10" or 2x12" HEWN LOG Siding - SQUARE Profile - Special Order call for quote


 

Common Sense Siding Installation Tips

The fact is that all wood no matter how it is dried (seasoned) will expand and contract during the year due to moisture changes in the air.

Allow your wood to acclimate before installation. This is the most common installation mistake and the most costly. When the wood arrives it will begin to change sizes to adjust to its new climate. The worst thing you can do is install siding during this phase. This is true of ALL seasoning grades. Allow 1 - 2 weeks for your wood to acclimate. The last thing you want to do is install it DURING the change.

Ideally you would unband the wood and sticker it for proper air flow. But if you do not have that option then leave it banded for a longer period of time. After this acclimation period size changes will be seasonal and minimal. This simple step is the single most important thing to remember when installing any wood siding product especially PAD board.

Avoid moving lumber when it is raining and it should always be covered with a lumber wrap that allows air to circulate moisture out. Always keep lumber on pilings so air can circulate under the pile. Never store lumber in a room with fresh concrete or drywall. Do not store the exterior project wood anyplace where it might be artificially heated or cooled. It must adjust to the natural conditions where it will reside.

Most wood expansion and contraction is across the width of the board. Selection of a Lap pattern minimizes the affect of that movement. Movement length wise is minimal. But to minimize gaps take the time to miter (angle) cut and treat the ends as you install and the results will last for years.


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Because we are committed to answering every request, our phones ring off the hook. In order to make sure you get the attention you deserve, we ask that you help us help you.

When you call our toll free line you will be asked a few questions to confirm if we can truly help with your project. If it looks like we can we will set up project consultation with a sales expert. This a 15 minute free consultation. If our products and services are a good project match, we will also give you a verbal "ball park" price and total cost estimate to help you plan your project costs.
 
BEFORE we can give you a Ball Park Price we will need to know the approximate square feet required and the ship to location (city, state, zip). This information is used to make sure everyone who makes an appointment receives the advice and customer service we have promised. Your information will not be shared or sold.


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